Build: Zippy the Wonderbug

I just love looking at it. Even though I know it's got to come right back apart, seeing him together really did a lot for my heart.

A kind of funny thing, I had to lie to the truck/trailer rental because they only allow certain vehicles on their trailers. We told them Chloe's Altima is going on it but in reality, this little half-assembled and full of parts beetle is going to get pushed on to it :)

Stumbled across this pic in your gallery and I love it.
Tells a story in a way - what the heck happened here and what will happen next?
I hope you don't mid I posted it here...

Maddel wrote:

Stumbled across this pic in your gallery and I love it.
Tells a story in a way - what the heck happened here and what will happen next?
I hope you don't mid I posted it here...

I love it! Zipp's waiting patiently for me in the garage. There was a small detour time-wise and it's going to be a couple weeks at least before I can tackle anything physically so he's just hanging out in the dry :)

So I have a new ebay search alert set up. Zippy will one day have a coffee maker.

This is cool - I really like the idea. And it works for tea too!
Now to find some some nice coffee sacks for the intended burlap interior!
May be you're about to define the "café (racer) cruiser" genre for the Bugs. :D

Maddel wrote:

May be you're about to define the "café (racer) cruiser" genre for the Bugs. :D

Ich werde ihn zum Café rennen! (I needed Google for help with that.)

I've been storing my father-in-law's 66 Chevelle in the garage, Bog had a catastrophic timing event, the El C got the rebuilt carb, fuel pump and egr valve installed but that's not why we're here:

Zippy's Bosch rebuilt starter is up to no good. In fact, I think it's why I was having problems when I parked him. The symptoms are basically the same, sometimes poor turnover, sometimes none at all. I pulled the starter and bench tested it with 12v and the cables were smoking while it struggled to spin over. I ordered an AC Delco from Rockauto and I should see that in a couple of days.

I'm going to crank up the engine just for warm fuzzies then I'm going to separate the body from the pan long enough to spin the spring plates a tooth. The suggested degree from Atomwerks puts so much tension on them that they never leave the fully raised position.

I purchased Virginia 1959 plates as VA will allow me to register it with those plates as long as I register it as an antique. There's restrictions that come along with that but the up side is no inspections so I can start to spread my wings in regards to how disassembled I'm able to drive it.

huh, i had forgotten you had a vw :lol:
:P :P :P

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

Super_Randy wrote:

huh, i had forgotten you had a vw :lol:
:P :P :P

I would consider it more a pile of rust and dents in the rough shape of a VW, tbh :)

Did you convert Zippy's electrical system to 12V or was it done by some PO?

Maddel wrote:

Did you convert Zippy's electrical system to 12V or was it done by some PO?

It's still a 6v system. Since 6v wouldn't turn the starter, I wanted to try 12v on it just to see what it'd do, since the starters are a-ok to take 12v without issue(although a guy on the Samba told me that you should change the solenoid to 6v so you don't beat the ring gear to death).

I considered a swap for a short time but since I have all the right stuff for the 6v system, I can't bring myself to buy everything I'd need for the swap like alt, stand, battery, etc. I'm just going to run with 6v and call it done.

I've been pondering the benefits of running a second 6v battery in parallel but I don't think that would do anything to help with starting, light brightness and the like. My very meager understanding of that setup leads me to believe it's just more bucket to store Ah in and not anything that would provide more cranking amps, etc.

Ah... I see. To be honest I like the period correct 6V system better since most people don't like it. :D
Our Bugs are anachronisms anyway, so what? :)
Clean connections plus amply dimensioned wires and it should work as intended.
The wiring harness isn't that complex and provides opportunities for some noticeable improvements IMHO.

do you have a hard start relay on there?

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

schwim wrote:

I've been pondering the benefits of running a second 6v battery in parallel but I don't think that would do anything to help with starting, light brightness and the like. My very meager understanding of that setup leads me to believe it's just more bucket to store Ah in and not anything that would provide more cranking amps, etc.

your meager understanding is correct.

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

Super_Randy wrote:

your meager understanding is correct.

What's your thoughts on running an 8v battery and adjusting the regulator?

No relay yet. PO had put a new harness in right before I got it.

schwim wrote:

Super_Randy wrote:

your meager understanding is correct.

What's your thoughts on running an 8v battery and adjusting the regulator?

No relay yet. PO had put a new harness in right before I got it.

if my meager understanding of charging systems is correct you need a voltage higher than the battery to charge it. meaning your 6v generator won't charge the 8v battery. that might be where adjusting the voltage regulator would come in, i don't fully know.
also don't know if you'd have to step down the ignition system to keep from feeding 8v to a 6v coil and points or any other electrics in the car (windshield wipers and radio for example). 8v through a 6v radio is probably not a good idea.

you could try searching a hot rod forum like The H.A.M.B. im sure people over there have done it. or at least know more than me.

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

Super_Randy wrote:

you could try searching a hot rod forum like The H.A.M.B. im sure people over there have done it. or at least know more than me.

I was reading a thread on it on the hamb earlier this week. They seem to be of the mind that adjusting the regulator will allow a 6v generator to charge an 8v battery. I guess because unmetered it already charges above 6v and the regulator chokes it down.

A volt-a-drop would probably be necessary for something like a radio but I don't think the coil would balk at that.

12v, however, would cook it so I'm trying to figure out how to test run the engine with a bad battery. I'm going to run the starter on 12v for the test and I'm going to see if the 6v battery has enough nuts to power the coil for just a fire-off.

I wrote Optima since they say it's a 36 month no-questions replacement warranty so I think I'm ok in that regard. Which is nice because batteries have gone up more than 75 dollars across the board in the two years since I purchased it.

hole up. you running one of those 3 pack dry cell optima's? dude iv never heard a good thing about those (6 or 12 volt). they seem to be junk with low amperage and a low life cycle. and like $100 of the price is the name. if that battery is having problems you would be better off just getting a battery from O'Reilly or Napa.

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

Super_Randy wrote:

hole up. you running one of those 3 pack dry cell optima's? dude iv never heard a good thing about those (6 or 12 volt). they seem to be junk with low amperage and a low life cycle. and like $100 of the price is the name. if that battery is having problems you would be better off just getting a battery from O'Reilly or Napa.

I really liked the size of it when I got it, I've never owned one before so can't say anything about them firsthand. I don't blame it for dying on me two years on a shelf without a single charge cycle. If they give me a free one, I'll give it a shot, if not, I'll purchase something locally.

Today, we segregate!

i see you've segregated the shock towers and beam as well :lol:

and sense when do you have a lift?

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

Super_Randy wrote:

i see you've segregated the shock towers and beam as well :lol:

I've not decided what to do concerning them yet. Since the entire front clip is wrecked, rusted and tweaked, It wouldn't be a sin to cut out the inner wells and just fab up some towers inside the trunk space. With the beam as narrow as it is, they won't fit in the traditional space.

Super_Randy wrote:

and sense when do you have a lift?

Came with the house but I don't fault you for not remembering that since it was about two years ago now :)

how narrows the beam?

and now i can see why you went through the trouble of installing the water filter system :lol:

you never learn nothin by mistake if you're to careful.
bad decisions make good memories.

Cool update, really enjoyed the pics! 8-)

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